Pre Laptop Orchestra/Gear

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* see [[Pre_Laptop_Orchestra/Speakers|Speaker Design Page]]
* see [[Pre_Laptop_Orchestra/Speakers|Speaker Design Page]]
* subwoofers! (any suggestions?)
* subwoofers! (any suggestions?)
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* ultra mobile option: [http://www.xpalpower.com/prod_pony.php]
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** need to get same number as laptops
** need to get same number as laptops
** comment (jeff) - i said this at the meeting, but i reiterate, we have a HUGE oppurtunity here to make some real changes if we consider this device. MOTU stands to make a big sale, and a great partnership if they'd consider letting some of us work on linux drivers. They probably don't do it because they dont want to and cant find anybody qualified to work on this. We should not take it lightly the pull we have with this project.
** comment (jeff) - i said this at the meeting, but i reiterate, we have a HUGE oppurtunity here to make some real changes if we consider this device. MOTU stands to make a big sale, and a great partnership if they'd consider letting some of us work on linux drivers. They probably don't do it because they dont want to and cant find anybody qualified to work on this. We should not take it lightly the pull we have with this project.
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* Focusrite Saffire series
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** http://www.musiciansfriend.com/product/Focusrite-Saffire-FireWire-Audio-Interface-?sku=245020
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** the entire Saffire range is now fully supported under FFADO
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** 4x10 at $299 (cheap)
* Alesis iO-26 ([http://www.pssl.com/Alesis-IO-26-26-Input-24192K-FW-Audio-Interface description]}
* Alesis iO-26 ([http://www.pssl.com/Alesis-IO-26-26-Input-24192K-FW-Audio-Interface description]}
** $399 retail
** $399 retail
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** even smaller
** even smaller
** great if we end up building only 4-channel speaker arrays
** great if we end up building only 4-channel speaker arrays
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== Wireless Switch ==
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* [http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/wa/RSLID?mco=60C1CBAD&fnode=home/shop_mac/mac_accessories/airport_wireless&nplm=MB053LL/A apple airport extreme?]
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== Wired Router ==
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== Microphones ==
== Microphones ==
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* headset mic's (ideally want 12 or more of these)
* headset mic's (ideally want 12 or more of these)
** suggestions?
** suggestions?
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** What about the headset mics Chris has (the soft bendy flexible ones)? I thought he said he could get a bunch more cheap/free - and they're pretty good, no? : rob
== Controllers==
== Controllers==
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* MIDI keyboards (hoping to get at least 6x)
* MIDI keyboards (hoping to get at least 6x)
** option: edirol PCR-M30 ([http://www.roland.com/products/en/PCR-M30/index.html description]) : ($150, at least 6x) : comment (ge) - in use in PLOrk
** option: edirol PCR-M30 ([http://www.roland.com/products/en/PCR-M30/index.html description]) : ($150, at least 6x) : comment (ge) - in use in PLOrk
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** option: korg mikrocontrol (http://www.midi-store.com/Korg-microKONTROL-midi-keyboard-p-16702.html) : ($300) : comment (ge) - more pads, knobs, sliders, smaller sized keys (i think).  H-Dizzle keyboard of choice.  Does have smaller keys, but that gets you three octaves in a smaller footprint.  And nobody in laptop orchestra is going to need nice large keys.  Also, you can get the additional microKase, which is a very nice carrying add-on.  Con: If you travel with it for a year and stick it in your checked luggage, the sliders fall off. 
* wacom tablet
* wacom tablet
** option: Intuos 6x8 ([http://www.wacom.com/intuos/6x8.cfm description]) : ($300, at least 4x) : comment (ge) - in use in PLOrk
** option: Intuos 6x8 ([http://www.wacom.com/intuos/6x8.cfm description]) : ($300, at least 4x) : comment (ge) - in use in PLOrk
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* XLR cables
* XLR cables
* Audio Interface => Amp/Speakers cables (may need to build our own)
* Audio Interface => Amp/Speakers cables (may need to build our own)
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** NxN balanced (TRS-TRS) snakes (N dependent on number of channels on speaker array, N < 8)
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*** http://www.pssl.com/66-Ft-Snake-4-14-M-TRS-to-8-14-M-TS (8x8)
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*** http://www.music123.com/Live-Wire-8-Channel-TRS-TRS-Snake-330497-i1166763.Music123 (8x8)
== Storage and Transportion ==
== Storage and Transportion ==
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* backpack: http://west.loadup.com/military/surplus/296966.html | http://www.pbcentral.com/columns/hildreth_kravitz/axiofuse.shtml
* cases?
* cases?
* one giant laptop container on wheels? (comment: all eggs in one basket....[jf])
* one giant laptop container on wheels? (comment: all eggs in one basket....[jf])
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**option: Gator Rack (no wheels) ([http://www.pssl.com/Gator-GR4L-ATA-4-Space-Rack-With-Locking-Covers description]) ($109)
**option: Gator Rack (no wheels) ([http://www.pssl.com/Gator-GR4L-ATA-4-Space-Rack-With-Locking-Covers description]) ($109)
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== Matts + Pillows (etc) ==
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== Matts + Pillows + Lap Trays ... oh my! ==
* Zabuton matts + pillows ([http://www.chopa.com/ShopSite/large_zabuton.html descriptions])
* Zabuton matts + pillows ([http://www.chopa.com/ShopSite/large_zabuton.html descriptions])
REED SAYS recommends getting them here:
REED SAYS recommends getting them here:
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in the future while playing...
in the future while playing...
I agree that the mats should look alike from audience...
I agree that the mats should look alike from audience...
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JASON suggests getting some kind of pad onto which slorkians can lean back...
* Lapinators ([http://www.lapinator.com/ lapinator]) - comment (ge): do we need these? - comment (jf) : no. not fond of using a laptop in my lap.
* Lapinators ([http://www.lapinator.com/ lapinator]) - comment (ge): do we need these? - comment (jf) : no. not fond of using a laptop in my lap.
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[http://www.target.com/Breakfast-Tray-with-Notched-Handle/dp/B000ST2I9Y/sr=1-2/qid=1205206813/ref=sr_1_2/601-3724690-4215330?ie=UTF8&rh=k%3Atray%20bed&page=1 Tray 1]
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[http://www.tvtraysource.com/breakfast-&-bed-trays/with-side-legs/beechwoodnotchedhandlebedtray.cfm Tray 2]
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[http://www.hometownstores.com/detail.aspx?ID=76332&ovchn=GGL&ovcpn=Ace%20Hardware&ovcrn=Bed%20Tray&ovtac=CMP Tray 3]
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[http://www.collectionsetc.com/Item14327.aspx?WT.mc_id=3DZZZ3# Tray 4]
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[http://www.vermontcountrystore.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=10269&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=728&iSubCat=738&iProductID=10269&searchid=inceptor Tray 5]
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[http://www.kmart.com/shc/s/p_10151_10104_011W574641110001P?vName=For%20the%20Home&cName=Furniture&Storage&sName=Accent%20Furniture&psid=FROOGLE&sid=KDx20070926x00003a Tray 6]
== Power cables / surge protectors / power conditioners ==
== Power cables / surge protectors / power conditioners ==
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== Video Projector(s) + screen(s) : OPTIONAL ==
== Video Projector(s) + screen(s) : OPTIONAL ==
* suggestions?
* suggestions?
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* Screens
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** Used to use this on the road.  Very portable.  Needs to be placed on something, like a table, or two stands or stools, or floor.  [http://www.projectorscreenstore.com/Ultra-Portable-Projector-Screens-s/815.htm Small projector screen]
== Everything Else : Suggestions? ==
== Everything Else : Suggestions? ==
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[[Category: Projects]] [[Category: SLOrk]]

Current revision as of 23:34, 22 April 2008

SLOrk Gear - what we are thinking about getting for the ensemble. Please add suggestions and links here!!!


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Contents

Laptops

  • macbook (current first choice) (description)
    • $1380 per laptop
    • black
    • planning to buy RAM upgrade separately from apple
    • possible paint job outsourcing on white ones
    • hoping to get 16x to 20x in the first round
  • Ram at Newegg.com: (linkage)
  • Ram at TigerDirect.com: (linkage)
  • Ram at Crucial.com: (linkage)

Speakers


Audio Interfaces

currently, the thinking is starting with the MOTU Ultralite, and then getting another, more linux-compatible one

  • MOTU ultralite (description)
    • $545 retail (anyone know how to get them cheaper? Hayden?)
    • metering + onboard level control
    • unknown/no linux support (boo)
    • need to get same number as laptops
    • comment (jeff) - i said this at the meeting, but i reiterate, we have a HUGE oppurtunity here to make some real changes if we consider this device. MOTU stands to make a big sale, and a great partnership if they'd consider letting some of us work on linux drivers. They probably don't do it because they dont want to and cant find anybody qualified to work on this. We should not take it lightly the pull we have with this project.
  • Focusrite Saffire series
  • Alesis iO-26 (description}
    • $399 retail
    • metering + onboard level control (not sure if this is for ins AND outs or what...probably need a test. looks promising though...'flexible routing'?)
    • Linux: NOT SUPPORTED, although according to ffado, their attitude is better than MOTU
      • We should definitely contact them w/ linux interest if we go this way, may have better luck than MOTU
    • need to get same number as laptops
    • not stackable. however, maybe this makes it easier to read and use? much more like a real mixer and independent level controls is way cool.
  • Linux-friendly:
    • Echo Audiofire 2 ([2])
      • Audiofire 2 is 2in/2out + 2/2 digital, no preamps,
    • or: Audiofire 4 ([3])
      • Audiofire 4 is 4in/4out + 2/2 digital , w/preamps
        • Cheap $200 - $300
        • Echo has been cooperating with the ffado project: ([4])
  • Check out the ffado database (here) for other options
  • Edirol FA-101 (description)
    • ~$380 online
    • 10in x 10out (i bet 2 of each are digital)
    • we have one to test (lonely on ge's desk)
    • probably the most inconspicuous device
    • linux friendly
    • no channel metering (i think the motu might be the ONLY one with this, unless that alesis works that way)
  • Edirol FA-66 (description)
    • hella cheaper ~$280
    • 6in x 6out (2 of each digital)
    • even smaller
    • great if we end up building only 4-channel speaker arrays

Wireless Switch

Wired Router

Microphones

  • vocal mic's (Shure SM58, 4x)
    • $100 each
  • instrument mic's (Shure KSM141, 4x)
    • $400
  • headset mic's (ideally want 12 or more of these)
    • suggestions?
    • What about the headset mics Chris has (the soft bendy flexible ones)? I thought he said he could get a bunch more cheap/free - and they're pretty good, no? : rob

Controllers

  • finger drum pads
    • option: m-audio triggerfinger (description) : ($150, at least 6x) : comment (ge) - in use in PLOrk
    • option: akai pad control (description) : ($200, at least 6x) : comment (ge) - BIG!
    • option: akai pad control (MPD-16) : ($99) comment (jeff) - SMALL!
    • option: korg pad kontrol ([5] Description): $199 comment (Hayden), feels better than trigger finger and they light up. Oh, and they light up. Did I mention they light up?
  • MIDI keyboards (hoping to get at least 6x)
    • option: edirol PCR-M30 (description) : ($150, at least 6x) : comment (ge) - in use in PLOrk
    • option: korg mikrocontrol (http://www.midi-store.com/Korg-microKONTROL-midi-keyboard-p-16702.html) : ($300) : comment (ge) - more pads, knobs, sliders, smaller sized keys (i think). H-Dizzle keyboard of choice. Does have smaller keys, but that gets you three octaves in a smaller footprint. And nobody in laptop orchestra is going to need nice large keys. Also, you can get the additional microKase, which is a very nice carrying add-on. Con: If you travel with it for a year and stick it in your checked luggage, the sliders fall off.
  • wacom tablet
    • option: Intuos 6x8 (description) : ($300, at least 4x) : comment (ge) - in use in PLOrk
  • wiimotes (with nunchuk) (description) : ($60, at least 12x)
  • joysticks?
  • dance pads?
  • turntable interfaces
    • option: numark TT-USB (Numark TT-USB) : ($169)
    • option: Ion iTTUSB (ION iTTUSB) : ($109) comment (jf) - probably 100% fine for basic use (pitch adjustments, light scratchign)
    • option: Stanton T-90USB (Stanton T-90USB) : ($299) comment (jf) - definitely the most professional, tightest control
    • time code vinyl (final scratch vinyl) : ($15) my code will read this at the moment but could be modified to read serato, etc as well.
  • other controller interfaces

Cables

Storage and Transportion

Matts + Pillows + Lap Trays ... oh my!

REED SAYS recommends getting them here: http://www.samadhicushions.com/cushions_and_benches.html?id=rWepZdtb it might be a wee bit more expensive but the quality is much better. I have used a cushion and matt from these guys for years. I would also like to consider coloured centre cushions and perhaps a one sided colour on the matt. What do you think. This allows for a possible roll assignment in the future while playing... I agree that the mats should look alike from audience...

JASON suggests getting some kind of pad onto which slorkians can lean back...

  • Lapinators (lapinator) - comment (ge): do we need these? - comment (jf) : no. not fond of using a laptop in my lap.

Tray 1

Tray 2

Tray 3

Tray 4

Tray 5

Tray 6

Power cables / surge protectors / power conditioners

  • suggestions?


Documentation Gear

  • a nice wide-angle video camera?
  • a nice still camera?

comment (jf) - do we really need to spend funds on these? so many of us have them. what about robocam guy?

Video Projector(s) + screen(s) : OPTIONAL

  • suggestions?
  • Screens
    • Used to use this on the road. Very portable. Needs to be placed on something, like a table, or two stands or stools, or floor. Small projector screen

Everything Else : Suggestions?

  •  ?



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